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התגובה שלך by ygurvitz — 11 ×‘פברואר 2014 @ 20:35
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התגובה שלך by ×ž×¨×˜×™×Ÿ — 11 ×‘פברואר 2014 @ 20:41
Martin,

You might claim to have dealt with "Territories cases" but you seem woefully uninformed.

The "Civil Administration" (what an Orwellian name) is only the lackey when it comes to issuing permits.

They look up the database run by the Shabak. If the name is up there, the "Civil Administration" cannot do anything.

The only thing they can do, is sometimes for ppl who are not "Shabak-prevented", decide to deny their permits for other – of course, perfectly justified – reasons.

התגובה שלך by Assaf — 11 ×‘פברואר 2014 @ 22:22
Also,

Don't know if you noticed, but you have confirmed Yossi's arguments word for word, while adding a lip-service.

Yes, you can appeal.

Yes, the state will draw the "security" card.

Yes, it will be rejected.

QED

התגובה שלך by Assaf — 11 ×‘פברואר 2014 @ 22:23
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